
In the following interview, we spoke to Echo Grass. We discussed with the band how they compare to their previous band the Silver Backs, recording their EP ‘The Cure for Silence’ as well as giving us a track guide to the songs that appear on the EP.
How does Echo Grass differ from your previous band the Silver Backs?
JOHN (Lead Guitars and Backing Vocals):
We’re a bit more on the same wavelength. With the old band, I think a lot of the time, we had all our different influences coming in on too many different songs. You’d have songs next to each other, in a set, on a recording, you wouldn’t normally associate with each other. So they’d be completely different styles, or really heavy or really light sometimes really poppy and then sometimes really out there. It was a bit erratic, it was a bit all over the place. We sort of had four different people who tried to make music rather than people making music together as a group.
JAY (Rhythm Guitar and Backing Vocals):
It’s a bit more split up between us. Originally, I was writing most of the stuff and now it’s more of a team effort.
JOHN:
We all help finish them now. I think when we use to do it, it be a song that was Jay’s and there be a song that was mine. And then, if someone didn’t like a part of it or wanted something else, it would [create an] argument, because you feel more possessed about it, rather than it being like our song. That’s the main difference, we work more together as a team.
Where did you decide to record The Cure for Silence EP?
JOHN:
Tom’s Dad, knows a guy who does some recordings in his spare time. He offered to just have us come round, using some recording software. Obviously there were limitations with it, it was a home studio. We just thought for the first one, with Elliot, we wanted to get something down, we could put out there, an idea of what we were. It’s hard to get across to people, to come down and see shows, or to show interest when you haven’t got anything to show them, then and there when you are talking to them about it. Just having something early on that we could give out, show them or people could look up when they’re looking to find us or whether or not they should come and see us or book us for things.
JAY:
We needed something that could go out quick. We could have paid for a really big studio, the thing was Elliot was new and didn’t really know the songs as well then. We wanted something we could just put out to get ourselves more gigs and more noticed. We thought it was more convenient, cheaper and it was more us, a bit raw.
JOHN:
We didn’t want to go out there and try and do something too outlandish. We’re not that type of band, we wanted to try and get something a little more ourselves. A little rough.
JAY:
I think for the first EP, it’s done an alright job. It will show what we can do.
A TRACK BY TRACK GUIDE TO ‘THE CURE FOR SILENCE’
1945
JAY:
1945 started as a little acoustic track I did just messing about in my bedroom and basically showed these two. Elliot wasn’t in the band then when we came up with it. Showed these two, after a little bit of debating…
JOHN:
After an initial twenty minute to half an hour argument.
JAY:
After that, we ended up coming round to it and just finding a way [that] fitted us. From there, with lyrics and that, it’s just want seemed to fit at the time. Overtime time we just changed to what seemed to fit us. Elliot ended up adding the drums to it and it just changed it all. It sounded a lot better when we add the drums over because at that point we didn’t have a drummer.
JOHN:
When actually wrote the song we didn’t have any drums to it. So the beat, it didn’t feel as full. We weren’t as sure about it. With sections of the song as well, like the main riff sounds fine with just the two of us, but as soon as you add drums we had to make adjustments to make it fit with a beat. I think as well once we got a drummer, the pre-chorus came into its own because the verse is quite soft.
JAY:
The verse is soft, the chorus is quite distorted and loud.
JOHN:
As soon as we got the drummer in, I think it was the first practice we did with Elliot we got that transition into the chorus.
ELLIOT (Drums and Backing Vocals):
It took a bit of nodding.
JOHN:
A lot of eye contact trying to make that work the first couple of times. So the transition between the two sections came to when we got the full set up as well as the end.
JAY:
Either way it was an acoustic track that was just an idea, that we ended up just taking and making into a song.
HOMESICK
JOHN:
It was probably the song that decided musically how we went. Out of the new songs we’ve got, Homesick sort of gave us the direction we wanted to go in.
JAY:
I think it’s the most important song on there but I don’t think it represents the best on there.
It was basically me and Tom coming up with just a riff, we had a vision that’s what we called it. We knew what we wanted, where we wanted to take it.
ELLIOT:
Whenever they go on one of their visions, you can’t stop them. They’re on the next step before you’ve even grasped the first one.
JOHN: It went from being a minor riff that we had to being like a fully-fledged song in their head before I had even finished tuning my guitar. I think it’s just impatience really, I think that song is born completely out of impatience. They can’t wait too long to tune, so they have to play with something else.
JAY:
It was sort of originally what we wanted to look towards, the genre of music that we play. But Homesick fell into so well that it started a bunch of other songs.
JOHN:
It’s probably why we ended up with a new drummer as well. That was round the transition phase.
ELLIOT:
Wasn’t it, you wrote the song, showed it to the last drummer once and he left?
JOHN:
I don’t think he was on the same wavelength as us.
JAY:
He didn’t have the vision.
JOHN:
I don’t think he could handle that one. So that sort of helped us design everything else that we’ve done since.
ICARUS
JOHN:
Jay had that one for probably about three months before me and him started together. Originally me and Jay started on our own and started looking for members. The first practice we ever did in my house, with just two acoustics we finished that song the first time.
JAY:
It came about because I am sort of into weird stuff like that I look for space and Greek mythology. So, I was like I want to write a song about Icarus, it’s pretty cool. It came about where I found a riff, two nice notes and worked it from there. It sort of fell flat by itself without another guitar.
It’s one of the only ones that’s lasted. The only one that fits no matter where it goes.
JOHN:
It’s had subtle changes, and we’ve made it change slightly over time. To just fit in with what we’ve got now. That might be the originally that we ever did together.
I think that song’s nearly two years old. We have recorded it before but I think we’re happy with this recording.
THE CURE FOR SILENCE
JOHN:
It originally started out as a live intro for Icarus. We were looking for a way to start a set live because we couldn’t decide on what song to play first. Openings are important, because people will decide whether or not they really want to stay or leave based on how good your first song is.
While we were playing around with it. Elliot and Tom, once again went off on a tangent.
ELLIOT:
He started with a bass riff, I added a bit of drums to that. We were like playing that for about twenty minutes while you guys played on top of it.
JAY:
Until I found that riff I do over it. It was, it just didn’t feel like it was clicking for me. It didn’t feel like us, and then when we add like distorted guitars, your high leads over it and the riff. It really did fit and come together.
JOHN:
Deciding not to put a verse on it lyrically, was something we were a bit unsure of at first. We didn’t know or not whether or not that would be a good idea or a bad idea. It didn’t feel like it needed anything else once added all the guitars bits. We thought, just for us, it would work better as a shorter song with an intense chorus.
What are Echo Grass’ plans for the rest of 2016?
JAY:
Gigs, gigs and more gigs, basically. Just push ourselves to do as many things as possible and just not stop. Carry on writing, do more EPs, more recordings, just more. Just keep ourselves out there. Push ourselves until literally, our fingers are bleeding.
JOHN:
We’re trying our best to try and spread out a bit more. I think one of the main problems that we had was that we were too local, too insular. We only played within two miles of where we are sitting right now. So really we needed to spread our wings a little bit, go a bit further out, try and get in front of new people. So last night we started playing a little bit further out, we went over to West Kirby for West Kirby Live. That was a fun festival.
JAY:
First year of the festival and it went down really well. We had a great day and it was a massive response from loads of different bands. Loads of people went, it looks like it could still be bigger next year. Hopefully we will play it again because we really enjoyed it.
JOHN:
Hopefully later on in the year, we hope to go further out. We want to push ourselves to travel around the north west, maybe even further. We want to try push a little bit further out. Maybe visit some more places that we haven’t played before. We’ve done Manchester a couple of times, before Elliot was in here, we’ve only done that once or twice. We’d like to play in front of some different audiences and try get ourselves out there as much as possible.
JAY:
I would like to do down south.
JOHN:
It would be nice to just see how different people perceive us and how it goes down in different parts of the country. We only really had a small audience so far. It would be nice to see how people respond to the newer stuff that we’ve got.
You can follow Echo Grass on Facebook at: http://www.facebook.com/echograss. Their EP, ‘The Cure For Silence’ is out now.